Comments on: Bayern 0 – 1 Schalke

By: Imicus

Imicus — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:30:40 +0000

Juliet, I have seen Kameni many times playing here in Spanish League, and I consider him just an average goalie, I do not remember any consideration by big clubs about his future. My view is that FCB should get a long term keeper, and I consider Enke, who will be 32 at the start of next bundesliga, is a short term solution, for two or three years.If he finally comes I think that Rensing should not be transfered, but loaned for two years to a bundesliga team to proof if he is really good, but has had a hard year, or not good enough for our gate

By: Jan

Jan — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:31:56 +0000

Völler and Rijkaard are getting along very well these days actually – I think Völler wouldn’t have a problem with him at Leverkusen based on what I read in a couple of interviews with him.

Henke has been a flop as Bundesliga coach. He might deserve a second chance, but if he seeks it, he’ll probably have to give it a try at a smaller club.

By: Luke

Luke — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:49:37 +0000

A Kap: That’s right, Henke was at Kaiserslautern in 2004-05 but didn’t last the season. Of course, they were relegated the next season after having sold off all their homegrown talent, so I’m not sure half a season there is really a fair measure. By no means am I saying he’s the man for the job, but it seems to me if there was a desire to continue what Hitzfeld brought to the club, and Bayern thought highly enough of Henke to keep him on staff in the new regime, I think he’s earned some consideration.

I would think Favre is a front runner, and is going to get a long look. As has been mentioned, there is that Servette connection with Rummenigge. I would think it’s logical to assume Armin Veh will get some consideration as well.

I really can’t imagine Bayern hiring Rijkaard. It not as unfathomable as say, Leverkusen hiring him , but I simply don’t see him fitting with our management.

I think the guy to keep an eye on is Louis van Gaal. He has makes sense as a seasoned, experienced bridge for a couple seasons before having someone with a Bayern pedigree like Scholl take over, and he’s coming off a tremendous achievement with AZ Alkmaar. Along those same lines, but perhaps more of a wild card, would be Dick Advocaat.

By: John

John — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:19:32 +0000

the decision to fire Klinsmann took too long in coming… from the begging Klinsmann was struggling and he never instilled a footballing philosophy at Bayern, you could see he wanted Bayern to play attacking football but he had no real plan for getting that done… Bayern have changed their style of attack no less than three times this season none of them were effective and Bayern scored less goals than last season and with the defense he was equally at a loss and Bayern went from having the best defense in the bundesliga to having one of the worst. this season was supposed to build on what was done last season but Bayern regressed and Klinsmann had to be fired.

I think Bayern will go for another German coach next season probably Bernd Schuster who coached Real Madrid

By: Juliet

Juliet — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:12:05 +0000

Diana, I’m *sure* Magath had a hearty laugh at Bayern’s expense.

There is no way on god’s green earth that Wenger or Hiddink would come to Bayern. Bayern might be able to get Mancini.

Despite being able to pull off some good saves at tense times, Wiese is not nearly consistent enough. IMHO, he seems disruptively crazy, not fired-up crazy. I read that Kameni from Espanyol was being considered, or Enke of Hannover (*fun fact: Heynckes was the coach that brought Enke from M’gladbach to Benfica in 1999). I think Bayern could easily obtain either of those GKs.

It seems there is a spirit of defeatism in the dressing room, a pall cast by failed ambitions and perhaps an inability to man-motivate. I’m probably just projecting, but the players just seem frustrated. There is decent movement in the midfield, but Bayern have a foreward problem. Toni’s in a trough and cannot get the job done as a single striker, anyway, Klose’s injured, and Poldi might as well stay in bed. The team relies on Ribery as a playmaker, but playmaking on one side just doesn’t work, Schweini gets stuck defending on the right and can’t get forward and can’t get service… (Angela, the team report on the Bayern webpage reported Schweini twisted a knee in midweek.)

By: A Kap

A Kap — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:20:03 +0000

Luke,
Wasn’t Mike Henke coach at Kaiserslautern or somewhere while Hitzfeld manned the tv booth? Not sure if he lasted a whole season or two there, but that would provide some indication. Also, it would be interesting to see how many prominent assistant coaches have made the jump successfully as head honcho.

I think a bit of the problem is the the structure of the club. When Magath was fired, he railed against the management in that he was never made a part of the old boys club like Hoeness, Der Kaiser and Kalle, and that he didn’t get the players he wanted.

I think Klinsmann’s game philosophy requires a definite group of players, something similar to American Football, where every player has an assignment and can only play one position. I don’t think he had the players to match that ideology, and couple that with the fact that his holistic approach backfired, there was only going to be one result as far as his job was concerned.

The Buddhas around the complex reminded me of Glenn Hoddle using the faith healer, obviously Klinsi’s idea was not as ludicrous, but unfortunately the players did not all catch on. That is where a true leader would have helped. The fact that van Bommell was alienated early on did not help Klinsmann win the players off the pitch either.

I think a tried and tested coach is required. Guus Hiddink would be ideal, but I doubt Bayern’s going to land him. Rijkaard would be an interesting proposition.

By: Imi

Imi — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:28:46 +0000

ALI, I thought like you but some articles opened mi eyes on another candidate for the net, Tim Wiese, as you can read in the article “Time Wiese for Germany” in this same web, he has character, skill, a long experiencie so far playing at international level, the perfect age to keep the place steadily for seven or eight years, and, of course, is a bit “mad”, shall we say, like all great german goalies. I remember Oli Kahn , more than a year ago, said he considered him as his substitute in the german national team.

By: Ali B

Ali B — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:22:57 +0000

I gotta say, I’m pretty unhappy with the lack of patience that the Bayern managers are showing. Both with Rensing, and Klinsmann. I know they havent gotten great results so far, but they should be given more time. Specially Rensing.
Any body remember the 4-1 and 4-2 thrashing that Bayern handed Real years ago in CL? Casillas was the n00b keeper for Real back then. Look at him now.

But if they’re gonna get anyone new, Adler would be the best. Except that he’s really commited to Leverkusen, cause the Goalkeeper’s trainer there is basically like a father to him.

By: diana

diana — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:54:57 +0000

A Kap, I am like thinking Magath could be watching all the drama that unfolded in Munich and secretly laughing at himself. Just my theory.

But really, who should be the long-term person in charge? I know Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been highly rated (to the extent he had been linked to the Real Madrid job more than once) but he is one who famously does not break his contract. And then one also has to consider that Arsenal will be playing Manchester United in the Champions League semi-finals tomorrow. I just cannot see Wenger walk out of Arsenal, even if the polls I had been reading on who to replace Klinsmann seemed to be in favour of him. Even if Wenger does know German himself.

Anyhow, the Kaiser had said on Bild today that he hope they get someone who is in the class of Guus Hiddink. Hmm…

By: Luke

Luke — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:42:00 +0000

This was the logical group to put in place. Jupp is an old Bayern hand, and is only one season removed from coaching in the league. Ironically, he’ll take on Gladbach in his first new assignment. The club will benefit from having Gerland at his side. Perhaps had Klinsmann cut loose his overmatched assistants with Gerland at the break, there may have been some improvement.

Obviously there will be a lot of discussion over this decision, and all I can say is that while there is a logic to it, it seems either too early or too late depending on your viewpoint. We should not expect miracles. On Hitzfeld’s last return, he presided over a disasterous showing against Der Club, and matters didn’t improve much.

Will check, but wondering about Michael Henke’s status in all this? And for those among us who crave the stability of Hitzfeld, shouldn’t Henke get some consideration?0